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The recent Anglican/Orthodox Conference at Nashotah House was, for me as an Orthodox observer, an extraordinary experience and one that fills me with hope (albeit, a guarded hope). Over the 3 or so days of the conference I was consistently impressed with the seriousness of all the speakers and the substance of their presentations. Archbishop Robert Duncan of the Anglican Communion of North America I think spoke for many of his fellow Anglicans when he said that “we (the Anglican Communion) come to you (the Orthodox Church) in our brokenness and our need for what it is you have.” This is, in my opinion, an extraordinary statement from a Christian leader.

At the same time neither Archbishop Duncan or the other Anglican speakers were unaware that there remain real, substantive differences between our two tradition. Of these the most serious were seen (from the Anglican side)  as the “filioque” clause, which was added to the Nicene Creed by the Western Church, the ordination of women as presbyters and the Orthodox condemnation of Calvinism. To be sure there are other areas of disagreement, but these three seem to be the main ones that the Anglicans needs to address among themselves.

After the meeting, Archbishop Duncan was in fact on his way to speak with the Anglicans of the Southern Cone (primarily Africa) about recent developments between ACNA and the OCA. Quite prudently, the Archbishop is hesitant to proceed unilaterally and would submit Metropolitan JONAH’s invitation to reconciliation to the collective discernment of those Anglican community with which ACNA is in communion. What the rest of the Anglican world will say, and what ACNA will do if the invitation to reconciliation is rejected, no one at this point knows–including I suspect Archbishop Duncan.

The point was made several times and by both Orthodox and Anglican speakers that the Orthodox/Anglican dialog is the oldest ecumenical dialog on the modern era. In America this dialog flourished especially because of the friendship between St Tikhon on the Orthodox side and Bishop Charles Grafton on the Anglican side. These two men were committed to the reconciliation of the two communities and in life worked worked tirelessly to do so even as (and again as more than one speaker insisted) they do now as before the Throne of Christ.

In his closing remarks Metropolitan JONAH reminded the seminarians that in St Tikhon, who was himself a son of Nashotah House having received his doctorate of divinity (honoris causa) from that institution, they had a powerful intercessor on their behalf as they (like him) fight against the spirit of the anti-Christ who seeks to destroy their church as he sought to destroy the Church in Russia.

While I will write more later, I did want to make one personal observation.

Many of the Orthodox speakers were themselves former Anglicans and in many cases Anglican priests who studied at Nashotah House. These men were greeted by the former fellow Anglicans with evident warmth, affection and respect. To my shame I must confess, I find it hard to imagine myself being so generous in similar circumstances. And I cannot help but think my own shortcomings in this area are shared by many, maybe even most, Orthodox Christians–clergy and laity.

More later.

In Christ,

+Fr Gregory


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  • http://apostolicity.blogspot.com/ Christopher Cantrell+

    Fr. Gregory,

    As Metropolitan JONAH said, “The only motivation here is love.” Love. If we enter into this enterprise in love and keep that at the center of what we do together, then I believe we will reach that point when we can together enjoy the fellowship of the Eucharist. We in Fort Worth desire to be in full fellowship with those who hold the Apostolic Faith – I believe this is of God. And I am most grateful to be about this work.

    Your brother in Christ,

    Fr. Christopher Cantrell+
    .-= Christopher Cantrell+´s last blog ..Fond du Lac Circus II =-.

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  • http://apostolicity.blogspot.com Christopher Cantrell+

    Fr. Gregory,

    As Metropolitan JONAH said, “The only motivation here is love.” Love. If we enter into this enterprise in love and keep that at the center of what we do together, then I believe we will reach that point when we can together enjoy the fellowship of the Eucharist. We in Fort Worth desire to be in full fellowship with those who hold the Apostolic Faith – I believe this is of God. And I am most grateful to be about this work.

    Your brother in Christ,

    Fr. Christopher Cantrell+
    .-= Christopher Cantrell+´s last blog ..Fond du Lac Circus II =-.

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  • http://palamas.info/ Fr Gregory

    Let me add my voice to yours Fr Christopher!

    As Metropolitan JONAH said more than once, we need each other.

    In Christ,

    FrG
    .-= Fr Gregory´s last blog ..Our Call to Love and to Be Loved =-.

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  • http://palamas.info Fr Gregory

    Let me add my voice to yours Fr Christopher!

    As Metropolitan JONAH said more than once, we need each other.

    In Christ,

    FrG
    .-= Fr Gregory´s last blog ..Our Call to Love and to Be Loved =-.

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  • George Patsourakos

    I would like to see the recent conference of Anglican and Orthodox Church hierarchs at Nashotah House serve as a prelude to Christian unity.

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  • http://MorefromNashotahHouse George Patsourakos

    I would like to see the recent conference of Anglican and Orthodox Church hierarchs at Nashotah House serve as a prelude to Christian unity.

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  • http://palamas.info/ Fr Gregory

    Goerge,

    Me too!

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  • http://palamas.info Fr Gregory

    Goerge,

    Me too!

    +FrG
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  • http://khanya.wordpress.com Steve Hayes

    Thanks for a very interesting report. I have one correction to suggest, and a query. The correction is that the “Southern Cone” refers to South America, not Africa. It is Argentina, Chile and Uruguay.

    The query is about the problems seen from which point of view. You said that the problems from an Anglican view were the filioque, the ordination of women, and the Orthodox condemnation of Calvinism.

    In my experience, many Anglicans have been quite willing to drop the filioque, and don’t see it as much of a problem. The ordination of women might be a problem to those Anglicans who support it, and though some Anglicans are Calvinist, I’m not sure how much they are wedded to Calvinism.

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    • Fr Gregory Jensen

      Deacon Stephen,

      Thanks for the correction about the “Southern Cone”. I was in back of the hall and could always hear what was being said; no doubt I missed something!

      As for the 3 problems–I have no bias on which to evaluate how accurately they reflect the real concerns of Anglican’s worldwide. These were the problems that Archbishop Duncan identified as critical.

      Again, thanks for the comment and the correction!

      In Christ,

      +FrG

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  • http://khanya.wordpress.com Deacon Stephen

    Thanks for a very interesting report. I have one correction to suggest, and a query. The correction is that the “Southern Cone” refers to South America, not Africa. It is Argentina, Chile and Uruguay.

    The query is about the problems seen from which point of view. You said that the problems from an Anglican view were the filioque, the ordination of women, and the Orthodox condemnation of Calvinism.

    In my experience, many Anglicans have been quite willing to drop the filioque, and don’t see it as much of a problem. The ordination of women might be a problem to those Anglicans who support it, and though some Anglicans are Calvinist, I’m not sure how much they are wedded to Calvinism.

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    • Fr Gregory Jensen

      Deacon Stephen,

      Thanks for the correction about the “Southern Cone”. I was in back of the hall and could always hear what was being said; no doubt I missed something!

      As for the 3 problems–I have no bias on which to evaluate how accurately they reflect the real concerns of Anglican’s worldwide. These were the problems that Archbishop Duncan identified as critical.

      Again, thanks for the comment and the correction!

      In Christ,

      +FrG

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  • Chris Jones

    Father Deacon,

    though some Anglicans are Calvinist, I’m not sure how much they are wedded to Calvinism

    Like you, I am a former Anglican. I was raised in the Anglo-Catholic tradition, and while I knew there were Episcopalians who were more Protestant, I regarded this as more of a difference in liturgical style than in theological substance. I certainly did not think that my “low-Church” brothers were Calvinists. I was wrong.

    What I now realize is that I led a sheltered life as an Episcopalian, and that many of those who called themselves Evangelical Anglicans were (and are) indeed Calvinist. As is well known, Anglicanism is theologically comprehensive, and that comprehensiveness has two dimensions: conservative-liberal and Protestant-Catholic. Thus there are those who are “Catholic” in their liturgical sensibilities but “liberal” on issues like women’s ordination and human sexuality (Rowan Williams is an example of this), and there are those who are “Protestant” in orientation and “conservative” on those issues.

    The truth is that those who are both Protestant and conservative are very serious about their Protestantism, and their Protestantism is Calvinist in nature. This is the group that most of ACNA comes from, and many if not most of them are indeed “wedded to Calvinism.”

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  • Chris Jones

    Father Deacon,

    though some Anglicans are Calvinist, I’m not sure how much they are wedded to Calvinism

    Like you, I am a former Anglican. I was raised in the Anglo-Catholic tradition, and while I knew there were Episcopalians who were more Protestant, I regarded this as more of a difference in liturgical style than in theological substance. I certainly did not think that my “low-Church” brothers were Calvinists. I was wrong.

    What I now realize is that I led a sheltered life as an Episcopalian, and that many of those who called themselves Evangelical Anglicans were (and are) indeed Calvinist. As is well known, Anglicanism is theologically comprehensive, and that comprehensiveness has two dimensions: conservative-liberal and Protestant-Catholic. Thus there are those who are “Catholic” in their liturgical sensibilities but “liberal” on issues like women’s ordination and human sexuality (Rowan Williams is an example of this), and there are those who are “Protestant” in orientation and “conservative” on those issues.

    The truth is that those who are both Protestant and conservative are very serious about their Protestantism, and their Protestantism is Calvinist in nature. This is the group that most of ACNA comes from, and many if not most of them are indeed “wedded to Calvinism.”

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  • http://khanya.wordpress.com Steve Hayes

    Concerning Anglicans and Calvinism: perhaps I have a slightly different view of it because in South Africa the Calivinist-inclined Anglicans long ago split off into a separate body, the Church of England in South Africa (CESA), which is ultra-Calvinist. I shared a bedroom with a member of that body at an ecumenical mission conference some years ago. He interrogated me with the TULIP test, and when I failed, he requested other accommodation, lest I should contaminate him with my ideological impurity.

    But since Metropolitan Jonah was speaking specifically to ACNA, rather than to Anglicans generally, it might be true to say that ACNA (rather than Anglicans generally) are wedded to the filioque, the ordination of women, and Calvinism.

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  • http://khanya.wordpress.com Deacon Stephen

    Concerning Anglicans and Calvinism: perhaps I have a slightly different view of it because in South Africa the Calivinist-inclined Anglicans long ago split off into a separate body, the Church of England in South Africa (CESA), which is ultra-Calvinist. I shared a bedroom with a member of that body at an ecumenical mission conference some years ago. He interrogated me with the TULIP test, and when I failed, he requested other accommodation, lest I should contaminate him with my ideological impurity.

    But since Metropolitan Jonah was speaking specifically to ACNA, rather than to Anglicans generally, it might be true to say that ACNA (rather than Anglicans generally) are wedded to the filioque, the ordination of women, and Calvinism.

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  • JohnP

    I firmly believe that the Anglican/Episcopalian tradition is associated with Calvinism, which, to me, is positive.

    Article 10 of their “Articles of Religion” says that a fallen human being “cannot turn and prepare himself, by his own natural strength and good works, to faith, and calling upon God.” It goes on to say that “we have no power to do good works pleasant and acceptable to God, without the grace of God by Christ” (BCP, 604-605). Some of the other Articles, like Articles 11 and 17, are also squarely rooted in the Calvinistic tradition, and reiterate the
    wonderful Reformation teachings that we’re justified before God through faith alone, and that this is the result of God choosing to save us and show us His wonderful compassion and love! Both of these Articles talk about the tremendous comfort that these gracious teachings bring into our hearts (BCP, 605, 606)!

    I would hope that the Metropolitan, whom I consider to be a decent Christian, would respect this heritage in his dialogues with the ACNA, as I think it’s biblical and preserves the kind and compassionate way the Lord deals with us. It underscores God’s irresistible grace toward sinners, and that the Lord changes our hearts when we hate Him so that we’ll see Jesus as our Savior and trust in Him and find assurance of the forgiveness of sins. John Newton, author of “Amazing Grace,” was a Calvinist, and I’d hope that the graciousness of the Calvinist tradition and the Christian tradition is remembered in these dialogues. The great Orthodox Patriarch Cyril Lucaris recognized the importance of having a robust view of God’s grace.

    John Peters

    Quotes from The Book of Common Prayer (Oxford University Press, 1928).

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  • JohnP

    I firmly believe that the Anglican/Episcopalian tradition is associated with Calvinism, which, to me, is positive.

    Article 10 of their “Articles of Religion” says that a fallen human being “cannot turn and prepare himself, by his own natural strength and good works, to faith, and calling upon God.” It goes on to say that “we have no power to do good works pleasant and acceptable to God, without the grace of God by Christ” (BCP, 604-605). Some of the other Articles, like Articles 11 and 17, are also squarely rooted in the Calvinistic tradition, and reiterate the
    wonderful Reformation teachings that we’re justified before God through faith alone, and that this is the result of God choosing to save us and show us His wonderful compassion and love! Both of these Articles talk about the tremendous comfort that these gracious teachings bring into our hearts (BCP, 605, 606)!

    I would hope that the Metropolitan, whom I consider to be a decent Christian, would respect this heritage in his dialogues with the ACNA, as I think it’s biblical and preserves the kind and compassionate way the Lord deals with us. It underscores God’s irresistible grace toward sinners, and that the Lord changes our hearts when we hate Him so that we’ll see Jesus as our Savior and trust in Him and find assurance of the forgiveness of sins. John Newton, author of “Amazing Grace,” was a Calvinist, and I’d hope that the graciousness of the Calvinist tradition and the Christian tradition is remembered in these dialogues. The great Orthodox Patriarch Cyril Lucaris recognized the importance of having a robust view of God’s grace.

    John Peters

    Quotes from The Book of Common Prayer (Oxford University Press, 1928).

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  • Fr Gregory Jensen

    John,

    Thank you for your comment and spirited defense of Calvinism!

    Yes, His Beatitude Metropolitan JONAH is a decent Christian and while he respects the heritage of those in the ACNA, he is not free to lift the Church’s rejection of irresistible grace. For the Orthodox Church Calvinism undermines the freedom of the human person.

    Regarding Patriarch Cyril, it is by no means certain that he was a Calvinist or even that the confession of faith that appeared under his name was actually written by him rather than one of the many Calvinist scholars with whom he corresponded. You can read more about Cyril here: http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/ca4_loukaris.aspx

    But even assuming that Cyril was a Calvinist, this really doesn’t bear on the matter of the Orthodox Church’s rejection on Calvinism.

    God willing, as ACNA members sit down with representatives of the OCA we will come to a mutual understanding. But while no one can predict the future, since the future is not man’s but God’s, I think it is safe to say that the OCA will not rescind the historic Orthodox rejection of Calvinism.

    In Christ,

    +FrG

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  • Fr Gregory Jensen

    John,

    Thank you for your comment and spirited defense of Calvinism!

    Yes, His Beatitude Metropolitan JONAH is a decent Christian and while he respects the heritage of those in the ACNA, he is not free to lift the Church’s rejection of irresistible grace. For the Orthodox Church Calvinism undermines the freedom of the human person.

    Regarding Patriarch Cyril, it is by no means certain that he was a Calvinist or even that the confession of faith that appeared under his name was actually written by him rather than one of the many Calvinist scholars with whom he corresponded. You can read more about Cyril here: http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/ca4_loukaris.aspx

    But even assuming that Cyril was a Calvinist, this really doesn’t bear on the matter of the Orthodox Church’s rejection on Calvinism.

    God willing, as ACNA members sit down with representatives of the OCA we will come to a mutual understanding. But while no one can predict the future, since the future is not man’s but God’s, I think it is safe to say that the OCA will not rescind the historic Orthodox rejection of Calvinism.

    In Christ,

    +FrG

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